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Saturday, October 7, 2023

2023 Hot Water Recirculation / Kitchen and Shower



Our 2023 Grand Design Reflection 297RSTS came with the Furion Tankless Water Heater. We have also had the traditional Gas/Electric water heaters before.


After a few weeks playing with it we had two issues.
1. Wasted a lot of water into the holding tank to get hot water. Not hateful but more than we were used to.
2. The distance from the water heater to the kitchen island sink took almost 2 mins to get hot water suitable for doing dishes in cooler weather. The freshwater tank temperature affects the time to heat the water.

In our previous rig I had already researched adding hot water recirculation device, called the ShowerMiser. Thankfully the wife decided to sell it before I did this modification.

I contacted https://showermiser.com/ and they were great to work with.

I sent them photos of my fixtures in the shower and kitchen sink and they emailed me the best options.
Here are the models that work for that unit:

Shower choices
SMMM02
SMEBM01
SMM001
 
Sink choices (Looks like Chrome?)
SKC002
If Brushed Nickel
SKB002

 If you have any additional questions or comments please feel free to contact me.

Sincerely,

Gus Searcy

Aqua View Inc.

Office: 714-485-5904

www.Aquaviewinc.com

I purchased these based on the recommendation:
  • SMMM02 SHOWERMI$ER Mushroom Matte Black
  • SKB002* SINKMI$ER Brushed Nickel Unit for Home/Commercial
SHOWER Install
    For the shower, I was able to run the recirculation line to the underbelly from the rear of the shower using the closet that also can house a washer and dryer.

Turn the valve to recirculate and it will circulate water from the fresh tank through the water heater and back to the fresh tank until you change the control valve to send it to the fixture. - No Wasted water anywhere.




SINK Install
 I chose not to install the control valve on the countertop because I was uncomfortable with the clearance. So I made a bracket and installed it inside the cabinet.

Turn the valve to recirculate and it will circulate water from the fresh tank through the water heater and back to the fresh tank until you change the control valve to send it to the fixture. - No Wasted water anywhere.

The most difficult part of the installation was dropping the underbelly and running the additional pex lines from the shower valve and sink valve to the input side of the freshwater tank NOT the input to the water pump.


Current Observations:
  • This is working well enough that would not want to be without it. It does what we want. The wife and I like different temperatures for a shower and we like 104 degrees Fahrenheit for dishes. So we leave the thermostat set at 104 and add cold as we desire to shower.
  • Restroom Sink - I did not add a recirculation valve to the restroom sink because it is easy to just recirculate the shower and the sick is close enough to be effective. You will want to shut off the shower recirculation before opening the sick fixture because the factory pump is designed to supply only one fixture at a time and the recirculation valve is a fixture when on.
  • You can also use the recirculation valve to fill your fresh tank if you want to.
  • You will want to shut off the shower recirculation before opening the sick fixture because the factory pump is designed to supply only one fixture at a time and the recirculation valve is a fixture when on
  • Using Water Pump - This is the way it is intended to work and work perfectly.
  • Using City Water - It can be done, you have to understand that IF you recirculate while on City Water hookup it will still send water to the fresh tank because you are not drawing from the fresh tank when using City Water you WILL overflow your fresh water tank.
Other systems involve secondary pumps with timers and others with crossover mixer valves and "H" valves.

I chose to go with the www.Aquaviewinc.com  because:
  1. It was within my skill set for the wife and I to install.
  2. The product is used in many high end rigs.
  3. The products are high quality and not plastic.
  4. The company provided great pre-sale support.
  5. The company also followed up with my to insure I had a great install.

The water heater sips propane and is used less than our traditional gas./ electric because it only heats when using it.